Posted by1 year ago
Can one get a front-end job only knowing HTML/CSS/JS? Assuming you would learn a framework upon getting hired.
I also have experience with Git, GitHub, Webpack, Babel.js, Jest, and NPM.
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If you said you had experience with “Babel.js,” I’d take that as a red flag you are just using buzzwords to beef up your resume.
Babel is a js compiler, that’s it. It enables you to use newer language features that aren’t supported in all browsers, than transpires them down to be operable in those older browsers. There is some initial configuration, but otherwise once you set up that pipeline you don’t need to worry about it anymore.
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what about webpack? i've been thinking whether it's worth mentioning or if it would be considered fluff.
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I’d take that as a red flag you are just using buzzwords to beef up your resume.
In my experience that's all recruiters want XD
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Nice! Okay! Thanks for that input!
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Frameworks are just abstractions of JavaScript really. The more you understand the core language, the more it all makes sense.
The best part of both Vue and React is that they both have wicked docs and most of the advanced stuff is not really needed in most day to day dev. More like cool additions to the workflow.
Good luck!
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Of course, that's the holiy trinity that anyone in the front end world should know better than anything else.
THEN... Once you're proficient with HTML, CSS and JS you [can] learn any fancy framework you want/need.
Don't be the next WordPress "expert" guy who comes here asking how to center a logo inside a header ;]
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Everyone knows that you just need to set the property center-logo to true.
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Yes. Despite what you see in this sub about everyone wanting to work at FAANG, there are many, many companies with lower bars to entry and you will learn the tools you need to succeed in web dev.
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Do you guys have any tips on where to apply to this type of jobs? [I'm looking for my first one but only got some ghosting so far]
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LinkedIn sucks as a social media platform and I wouldn't recommend spending a ton of time on there because it's all fake, but it can definitely get you a job. Make a profile, connect with some people you know, set your status to "looking for work" and put something about JS in your skills. You'll have recruiters hounding you in no time.
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Stackoverflow, and indeed have always been good to me.
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LinkedIn is often underrated, lots of good positions
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I made my entry on the job market through an internship. I got my first dev job at the company I interned for. Totally recommend this path when you have no working experience.
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Talk with some recruiters at Robert Half Technology and TekSystems. They’ll want you to take tests to assess your skills. They can help you get experience and even help you land a full time permanent job. Good luck.
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I recommend looking up Web developer studios on Google maps in any town you'd want to live. Bookmark them all and then send out a speculative application.
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I would say most definitely
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Yes. HTML/CSS/JS are the front end building blocks. Anything beyond that can only help your case, but knowing those tools is enough to land a job. Ask me how I know :]
Posted byu/[deleted]5 years ago
Ive heard many many professionals say that so many people are unaware of how much can be done in css. And ive heard professionals say that the webpage should still be able to operate without javascript, so really, as a front-end developer, is it possible to land a job being able to make just really really nice pages with html and css?
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Possible yes. Probable, no. It's very very very improbable. Front end interviews 99% of the time test your javascript capabilities.
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You'll have a hard time finding a job like that. There are a ton of things that JavaScript can do that CSS wasn't built to do or is even used for.
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If you are looking to specialize, see if you can get into building email templates or something. That's all HTML and CSS, but it got some really tricky problems [like no style sheets for GMail] that make companies look for a specialist. And there aren't too many of them.
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No. that's not front-end. You can't get around learning javascript
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Maybe an internship somewhere.
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Ive heard many many professionals say that so many people are unaware of how much can be done in css
Granted I'm the most amateur of amateurs, from my experience this is because many of the CSS solutions to simple JS functions are extremely hacky, and getting them to work consistently [on diff clients] is harder than just using JS. So this may be more true for someone who's worked with CSS for many many years and knows his way around it.
webpage should still be able to operate without JS
There have are many debates on this here and on stackexchange.
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Yea, I've landed some pretty well paying jobs focused on HTML / CSS and limited JavaScript.
Most of the positions were more Design / UX / Research focused and not so much spent building out templates.
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No.
You can go two ways. Improve your design skills, colour and layout theory and psychology, and go for UX/UI design.
Or learn JavaScript and begin be a Frontend developer.
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Yes, it's called: Email Developer. Start there at a place that has a great web presence and venture into the web frontend in your free time after you have mastered tables.
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Yes. Not a ton of roles like that but they exist.
A friend of mine was recently on the hunt for this exact thing. Got turned down by a bunch of companies due to lack of js but ended up with a sweet gig at Spotify's NY office.
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Yes you can, there are a lot of web agencies that don't even know what they are looking for and just use a generic job advert either sent in by their recruiter or stolen from somewhere else. I've been at my agency for just over a year and a bit and know very little vanilla js, I can pick up most pre-built plugins and install.
But I would recommend learning js, the more js you know the more you can earn.
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You can't expect to be able to negotiate a fair salary with that stack.